Friday, June 22, 2012

Zoo Rights

I look around that freaky part of the internet that is filled with zoosexuals and I see a whole lot of two things: firstly, the idiots/rapists/holy-shit-crazy people that I've already torn into quite enough for one month; secondly, people who have quietly accepted who they are but are saddened by the social stigma and fear they know they must live with until they die.  I recently had a chat with one such individual, and though this week I was going to do a quick silly post, that will be put on the back-burner so that I can whisper into the ears of all the rest of you dejected zoos.  I'm going to tell you why we are the next sex rights revolution.

This isn't because of crap like COMING SOON or predictions by Bill O'Reilly, although we should certainly be inspired by the success of the LGBT and other sex rights movements.  It's because, quite simply, we are right.

And people are starting to know that we're right: today, we in the western world are encouraged to question absolutely everything.  It started with creationism, branched off into religion as a whole, later into ethnocentrism and sexism, and finally into sex: we've questioned whether it really is wrong for a woman to be lustful and kinky, or for a man to love another man, and we are so used to questioning such things by now that we are beginning to be able to question whether it really is wrong for a human to fall in love with an animal, and to express that love physically.  If you don't believe me, check my last blog post, in which Peter Singer, who is among other things a supporter of zoo rights, was given a very prestigious award by the nation of Australia.

And it only takes a quick trip around the smarter places of the internet, and a good head on your shoulders yourself so that you can support a brief argument (or links to this blog ;) ) to find that when people are made to think about these things, the forward-thinking of them, which are a surprising amount, are quick to reach the conclusion that zoophilic intercourse is no more wrong than anything they might consider doing themselves.  The days in which we could fall back to religious arguments and knee-jerk reactions and have it work in science and politics are quickly leaving us here in the first world.

We have a leg-up, too, on the LGBT movement as it first started: it wasn't until 1974, after a lot of pressure from rights groups, that homosexuality was no longer regarded by the American Psychiatric Association as a mental disorder.  With the release of the DSM IV in 1994, though, zoophilia (as it is called there) and other paraphilias (barring some exceptions) are only regarded as mental disorders if they cause significant distress or inhibition of daily functioning to the individual.  As such, few zoos, despite their fear of social stigma, fit this disorder, and zoophilia is a rare diagnosis.  The most that could be done is to have the name changed to fit the nomenclature we have established, and to have it include an addition to make it similar to the diagnosis of Sadism, in that it may also be considered pathological if it includes harm to another.  At the moment, zoophilia is only listed in Paraphilias Not Otherwise Specified.  The Word Health Association's ICD-10 has a similar thing going on, so the insanity argument is already null and void.

So what needs to be done for this push for acceptance?  It will of course be difficult and take a long time: although zooerasty is legal in many places, it is not widely accepted anywhere.  It therefore is not legislation that we need to be pushing for, but for a change in people's  collective mindset.  It involves getting allies: people who sympathize with and understand us, even if they are not zoophilic themselves.  If you're zoo, it involves coming out, where it is safe; at the moment, the only people who often come out are the ones you don't want to be associated with: these people who don't have the brains to fear society.  We need to mediate that fear, though, even if it's only on the internet, and get out and talk to people about our orientation.  Not getting up in people's faces, but should the topic come up, or should the opportunity to arise, we must become educators.  We must be well-armed with information and we must not back down from a debate.  You have the resources.

I also feel that women who typically orient towards male animals are crucial here.  The big argument against us is that animals cannot possibly consent to human intercourse.  We of course have all sorts of data and observation that is contrary, but unfortunately, with few if any scientific studies on this and no terribly good way to show people, it remains the largest argument against us.  The sad fact is that most people are unable to read animal body language, and will invent scenarios in which what they expect to happen is happening.  You can't exactly show them pornography (and if you can, please don't), but what about your own life?  Most people have great difficulty with the idea of a female raping a male, and even more if the male is an animal, due to anatomical reasons.  It's important, though, when your arguments involve explicit content, that you know how to sound professional, and know when to stop creeping out your opponent.  Keep it short and to the point.

Here is what I think: Telling the world that, contrary to popular belief, zoos exist outside of the realms of animated comedies, they love their animals, and that the time has come for them to get the facts and seriously think about them - this will be the heart of any movement towards acceptance.  If you're zoo, so long as you're safe and smart, you need not be afraid any longer.  Your coming freedom from the hatred of society rests on you, and it rests on us working as one entity.  Here's to a liberated future.

6 comments:

  1. I couldn't put it better myself so let me quote some guy talking about nuclear power something about as hard to sell to a fearful public as zoophilla:

    "Providing education and facts are good, useful even - but on their own insufficient without presenting those facts in a context which engages with the deeply-held values of the audience. To produce actual engagement - and even inducement to support - requires a producing a context of facts compatible with the values of those one is trying to reach."

    From: http://neutroneconomy.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/cultural-cognition-of-risk-and.html

    He sums it up very well.

    I had a go at writing a frame for repealing anti-bestiality laws that would engage hierarchs and communitarians who'd typically dismiss the idea:

    "Anti-bestiality laws do not stop this practice from occurring. What they do is prevent us from regulating is activity and drive these ‘zoophiles’ in hiding. Repealing these laws would allow us to impose strict regulations on the practice to protect the integrity of our society. Furthermore with these laws repealed these ‘zoophiles’ will no longer be forced to hide themselves within our communities allowing us to better protect our communities and our children from them."

    You might find the frame appalling but it'd be much more likely to engage opponents than blind appeals to liberty or equality. Once they're engaged then you can debate away.

    Check out: http://www.culturalcognition.net/ for lots more information in this area.

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    1. An interesting idea, but I would be afraid of what would happen if we were simultaneously told (forced?) to come out for the reason of protecting normal society from us. I can think of at least one occasion in which this occurred, and it did not end nicely.

      People have also used this argument, to no avail, against the war on drugs in the United States and elsewhere.

      Thirdly, experience in nations and states in which zooerasty is legal tells me that it's not really the laws we need to worry about, it's society at large, which is not always concerned in the same manner as are bureaucrats. What needs to happen is a paradigm shift, not a recolouring of the situation.

      Just my two cents. Thank you for your response; it's nevertheless certainly something to consider. Best to you.

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  2. To actually respond to your points; I'm not surprised you don't like the frame because neither do I (and neither do environmentalists like the idea that nuclear power is a solution to global warming) nor is it actually that useful if I think about it. It'd make people realize that bestiality exists sure (which is the goal with climate change/nuclear power frame) but that's not much of an achievement given it's actually something you can see (as opposed to global warming). You really want to be putting across some fact like 'bestiality is no public health risk'. Here's another haphazard attempt at framing by me:

    "Given that STD from normal heterosexual sex are already a major health problem and very prevalent the risk posed to the public of bestiality from a health perspective is very low. Keeping bestiality illegal on health grounds isn't valid however given that it promotes social disorder and attacks the values of our communities I believe it should stay illegal regardless"

    That gets the message across while simultaneously avoiding the antagonism of the audiences cultural values as to avoid their total dismissal of the key message. Then once people accept the information you give them as true it becomes less likely that they'll turn around and claim it as false in the future. There's probably much better ways of framing that but you get the idea.

    On laws; note that laws tend to influence the public's perception of morality so that for example; society in general tends to be adverse to something like slavery nowadays even though die hard hierarchs could certainly fit it into their cultural worldviews if the topic came up and they thought about it for a bit. Otherwise this is moot because as I explained above; my original attempt at framing wasn't thought out well enough. Also I agree about the desire for a paradigm shift and seeing as I hold socialists ideals I know all about that feeling.

    This is a better articulation of what I'm getting at that came into my head. What I was trying to communicate originally which got diluted by my awful attempt at framing was this:

    Being right doesn't really matter much; relatively it's better than being wrong but absolutely it's not very important at all.

    Consider the example of nuclear waste disposal; it is technically feasible (1) but in spite of this nuclear opponents continue to paint the opposite picture in the public's mind (2).

    By that same token if there was some supremely authoritative study that proved beyond all doubt that animals can give informed consent (or conversely one that proved the opposite) the impact it would have on peoples perception of bestiality in general would be negligible.

    People who take stances that are not inline with the facts are not ignorant because of stupidity, they are ignorant because of an innate bias (3) and those that take stances that agree with the facts are not non-ignorant because they are more intelligent, they are (or the vast majority of them are(4)) just bias in the other way.

    To illustrate: the same individuals that support the scientific consensus of global warming are skeptical of the scientific consensus of nuclear waste disposal (5) (and vise versa).

    Furthermore most of your supporters are going to be as ignorant of exactly why you are right or wrong as your detractors. More of your supporters will be informed on the issue than your detractors but this is a result of their tendency to seek out information on issues they support not an indication of knowledge being the cause of support in the first place (6).

    In summary; being right is good but ultimately inconsequential, and your detractors aren't stupid, just bias differently. If you want to get public support for an issue and more importantly avoid polarization and the ensuing political bog, it's not enough to just be right, some tact is needed.

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    1. I'm not sure how your second attempt at framing is at all effective at getting the point across. It's essentially saying, "Zooerasty is safer than sex between humans, but still, ew," which doesn't do anything to get the point across at all; if anything, it lets one's opponents believe that the objective truths don't matter as much as their own subjective aversions. What would be more effective is simply affirming the first part, without pandering to the knee-jerk reactions that are the problem that must be overcome.

      The antagonism of cultural values is what needs to be done. You yourself have stated this: it is the definition of a paradigm shift in the context of civil issues and ethics.

      I'm aware that tact is necessary when arguing, but I feel you are under-valuing objective correctness. You used the example of nuclear power in contrast to climate change, but a few years ago in the United States, general support for nuclear energy was in the majority at 59%, which is of course far higher among relevant academic professions. ( http://www.gallup.com/poll/117025/support-nuclear-energy-inches-new-high.aspx ) It should be noted that many European nations run strongly if not primarily on nuclear energy, where support is much higher.

      When someone is right, their views eventually ring through the consensus. People are thinking beings. We are not ruled by our biases, as evidenced by the fact that we can change our minds. There is nothing 'innate' about our beliefs; there is no evidence that we are born imagining that certain kinds of sex are right and wrong for people other than ourselves to engage in. I'm sure you, as a presumed academic of one kind or another and one with an interest in politics and economics, have done so yourself on multiple occasions, perhaps even to one side of an issue and back.

      I do agree, however, that it comes down to who is going to seek out information on the issue. Those who do so tend to come to the correct conclusion. For that reason, it is necessary to make the information as accessible as possible, even perhaps exaggeratedly so, which is the reason for campaigning: it brings the information to the masses so that they do not have to seek it out, and indeed, cannot help but be exposed to it.

      It has nothing to do with wordplay or confusing the issue by pandering to opposing ideals. As demonstrated twice now, doing so will only hurt the correct side of the issue. Certainly, tact plays a major part; I have urged people, even in this post, to avoid disturbing their opponents, which is the major barrier to the removal of any taboo. I would also avoid bringing other irrelevant issues into this one that may make it more controversial, further confusing the issue and potentially isolating supporters - say, for instance, stating that accepting zooerasty might lower population growth.

      No; what it comes to will always be speaking the plain truth, and doing so openly, perhaps somewhat forcefully, and without fear. Nearly every successful liberal movement has employed this tactic primarily, from the LGBT movement to Mohandas Gandhi's liberation of India. I cannot recall a single such movement that achieved success by agreeing with their opponents and confusing their own issue. That is the role of the authoritarian.

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  3. Footnotes:


    1. At least according to a position statement by the National Academy of Sciences: http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10293

    2. Groups like Greenpeace (compare this page to 1): http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/campaigns/nuclear/waste/storage/

    3. Or as Dan Kahan calls it a "it is an integral component in the machinery of human rationality".(http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2012/7/1/the-cultural-certification-of-truth-in-the-liberal-republic.html)

    4. Some people will be amazingly objective and be able to overcome their cultural bias on the issue but they're a totally insignificant minority.

    5. See for example the National Resources Defense Council
    on global warming: http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/ and nuclear waste disposal: http://docs.nrdc.org/nuclear/files/nuc_04094201a_236.pdf

    6. See figure 2 here: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1518683

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  4. *didn't have the brains to fear society*

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